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why are people so gullable

#21
What jason and jered are saying sounds about rite

before i couldn't steal cars for [censored]( i still can't) but i did manage to get on the top 10 thefts board, by spamming my attempts to 2k
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#22
That's exactly what I mean Vincent.

And Larry, I spent to get my attempts up to 2800 (14K) Plus another (14K) where I 5/0'd half of them or so, Meaning about 4000 5/0 attempts. After that I have only bought 2 times for a big spree. So 14K 4 times, if any of you are wondering. 56K credits total. What's wrong with that for 654 thefts? Take away both sprees and I am still over 500 thefts on free credits, so sure spending some to start is justified. Modogg, it used to be quality over quantity, but now I want as many of each as I can.

Stolen Cars: 303
Home Invasions: 352
Attempted Thefts: 5748
You were caught: 1069 times

Jon did a full 14K as 5/0 for me, and then some more too with the next 14K as I have already explained, my connection at work is crap now so I had to have a friend do it for me. He will remember that I asked him to 5/0 6000 credits of the second set of 14K, but he did them all. There was around 8000 at the time. 14K@2800">14K@2800</a> attempts + <a class='oembed' href="mailto:8K@1600 attempts = 4400 attempts with 5/0. Vegito knows this you can ask him if your's so interested.

Attempted Thefts: 5748 - 4400 5/0 = 1348 real attempts and 655 thefts. 1 hit for every 2.06 attempts now that I am only hitting.

If you wanna be so proud that you dont spend a cent, hey, way to go. You can also spend the first 4 days credits on 5/0 to get 4000 attempts to finish the round with 500+ thefts my way instead of maybe 150 your way. I like mine better and you like yours.
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#23
gareth!!! good to see you playing again (even though i'm not). but you are an anomaly.

i know at lvl 1 and no spamming attempts that you can hit a bunch because i've done it, but when i lvl up, it helps for me to spam 5/0. when i have around 2.5k attempts, i used to HI like crazy. when i was lvl 18 and didn't have that many attempts, the hits were always less frequent. i don't know if that's just coincidence, but i usually didn't want to leave that up to chance.
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#24
Quote: Stolen Cars: 303
Home Invasions: 352
Attempted Thefts: 5748
You were caught: 1069 times

Attempted Thefts: 5748 - 4400 5/0 = 1348 real attempts and 655 thefts. 1 hit for every 2.06 attempts now that I am only hitting.

Not to be picky, but this is a funny way of working out your hit ratio. I mean, taking away all the spam attempts is like a golfer hitting 10 putts but only counting from the first one that went in. So really, you have 1 hit every 8.8 attempts.

If the algorithm works on averages, then you wouldn't be able to get as many successful HI's and thefts if you didn't have all the spam attempts, so how can you disregard them?
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#25
5 credits were used in the original spamming, a lot more were used for the actual attempts. It is not like a golfer hitting 10 putts because he would hit them the full distance, where as I only went 3.3% the actual distance. How about I explain it for you another way, so that you can see the bigger picture. I spammed 22,000 credits and with 1348 attempts at 152 credits I used another 204,896 credits, giving me a total of 224,896 credits used. 224,896 credits divided by my 655 thefts = 343.35 credits used per hit. Can you do that? No, you can't. If an attempt is based on 152 credits I hit at 343.35/152=2.26 attempts. A hit every 2.26 attempts IF I count it YOUR way. If you are stupid enough to actually count 5/0 as a full attempt there is something wrong. Now that you know EXACTLY how many credits I used and see that I hit every 343.35 credits COUNTING the 5/0, you will realize that it is a good way to bring hit percentage up. If a person was to spend the first 4 days doing NOTHING but 5/0 they would be able to hit about 1 hit every 343.35 credits, or 16.78 free hits per day. With a remaining 26 days in the round, a person could get to 436 FREE thefts in a round IF THEY USED MY SYSTEM.

" If the algorithm works on averages, then you wouldn't be able to get as many successful HI's and thefts if you didn't have all the spam attempts, so how can you disregard them?"

I am NOT the one disregarding them, I am the one that is TELLING people to do it, in a calculation like I did I was still VERY close to the actual hit per credit use because the spam attempts are so small and hardly consequential in relation to the total amount of credits used. Seeing as how you had a real hard-on to prove nothing I decided to do it your way, which works out NEARLY THE SAME.

The algorithm does not work on 'averages', that would be impossible to work into an equation. What I think it does do however is work as a direct function of percent. The percent would be a number derived from total attempts to a number previously thought up by the maker of the game. I would also tend to think that the highest success rate the makers would allow is 50% using the best technique and networth differential.

Now, everything is fully explained, and if you are still going to think that I only get a hit every 8.8 attempts so be it. I can tell you one thing though, you are not thinking about it from an intelligent point of view. ANYONE that can hit that frequently is REALLY DOING SOMETHING correctly, but then again, you have FAR more HI and boost titles don't you? rofl

There you all go, wonder how I get so many thefts and don't spend as much as you all think? Get your attempts up and its easy as pie Wink

Next round I am trying something else Wink
I think I REALLY have something figured out again :O
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#26
Id like to Say that I went from 35 to 45 HIs a session and went with Skogey's help in the middle of a session to 88 HIs. Say what ya want about 5/0s doesnt matter I will use Skogey's tech anytime and be just fine. Thanks Skogey for your friendship and Help it was greatly appreciated. and I never spent a dime on extra credits. Think of what could have been.
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#27
Quote:How about I explain it for you another way, so that you can see the bigger picture. I spammed 22,000 credits and with 1348 attempts at 152 credits I used another 204,896 credits, giving me a total of 224,896 credits used. 224,896 credits divided by my 655 thefts = 343.35 credits used per hit.

That's a better way of explaining it. I wasn't trying to say the method dodn't work....I'm quite sure it does. I was just looking at the stats, and if we didn't know how many were 'spam' attempts, then the hits/attempts ratio is just that. Looking at hit's per credit use is more relevant. Thank you for the explanation Cool
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